I’m in a bit of mental quandary, and I think this blog is a good place to seek opinions, although this doesn’t have to be about ‘teh menz’ per se.
Various levels of gratuitous sexual displays in various media are an issue for a lot of people. It’s fair for those people look at the entertainment medium in question, and make a statement to the effect of, ‘This level of sexual display is distracting and inappropriate to the tone or form of this entertainment. It is subtracting from my enjoyment of, and/or outright drives me away from said entertainment.’
I have heard it lamented, that they’d like people to get over the sexual displays so they can be attracted (romantically) to a character for their talent. What confuses a little, and conflicts me a lot about that suggestion, is why should one insert one’s libido into a situation that amounts to someone minding their own business?
I’m not trying to be naive here. I think it was Daisy D. who suggested on a thread that I might get all hot and bothered about Ginger Rogers hoisting Fred up, or kicking out her moves with an air of hauteur. Oh yeah; guilty as charged. Ms. Rogers is only minding her business (and minding it well) when my id suddenly sits upright and turns into one heck of a backseat driver. I would argue, however, that the brass instrumentals, saucy tempo, swishy skirts, her charismatic partner, and the choreography all imply that I’m supposed to appreciate Ms. Roger’s talents on a level that might warrant more than an adjusted monocle and a gentle golf-clap. I admit, however, that it’s all subjective.
But when I have conversations that go:
Them: “Stop manipulating me into liking this character. Let me judge them on their merits as a character,”
Me: “You’d rather there was no sexual context to this piece?”
Them: “No. I’m pro-sex. But let me find the sexy in how smart, funny, or powerful they are. Stop using manipulative tactics like pov shots, skimpy outfits, exceptional physical builds, heavy-handed banter, or unatural poses.”
I kind of want to reply, “You’re why people write Transformers slash-fiction.” (Love to the slashies! Let your Perceptor/Thundercracker freak flag fly.)
In real life, interaction is what gives people permission to view each other in a sexual light. But art generally doesn’t interact, or only does so in specifically scripted ways. So the subject matter provides context. I get people when they say, ‘this is too much.’ I don’t want anyone feeling defensive about their personal levels of promiscuity/prudishness, but there comes a point for me where the sexual austerity of the medium can stop feeling ‘enlightened’ and be just as creepy for me as the sexual excess of another medium can.
Tl;dr – It’s hard not to feel like you’re taking the moral low road when you’re ‘mansplaining’ your artwork to someone.
I got several responses, and they were good. One of the commenters was nice enough to link me to this article-
I’d read the article before and it’s good. I think people should read it. I recommend it. I believe I largely agree with the theme of it. And now, I’m going to pick at it because I’m like that.
For me, the author of that article is guilty of a little dishonesty in the way she makes her case.
This is not about these women wanting things; it's about men wanting to see them do things, and that takes something that really should be empowering -- the idea that women can own their sexuality -- and transforms it into yet another male fantasy. It takes away the actual power of the women and turns their "sexual liberation" into just another way for dudes to get off. And that is at least ten times as gross as regular cheesecake, minimum
Except, that's all that cheesecake is. All cheesecake of any kind. Present me an erotic image and I'll tell you how the artist took someone else's power and came at it from an angle that the viewer is supposed to get their groove on with.
Example: People are born with eyes to see and mouths to ingest breathe, and communicated, but if I draw someone smiling at the viewer then suddenly it’s all about you.
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| Have a nice day! You selfish ass. |
Actually, that's what every narrative is. When you watch Old Yeller getting shot, it doesn't matter whether you cry, laugh, or spank one out; you were using the image of someone else's life to pleasure yourself. Of course, the artist is supposed to place context within the medium to guide the viewer towards the appropriate reaction, and this author's put all of this in a shaky context for me with that paragraph.
Yet, even though I assert there'd be nothing bad happening if we were using women’s power as another way for ‘dudes to get off’, I have to admit that the author did say:
It takes away the actual power of the women and turns their "sexual liberation" into just another way for dudes to get off
That would mean Starfire is rather powerless as a character aside from her use in this storyline as a vehicle for male pleasure. And I agree. The author does say in the article what some of the problems are: a larger market saturation, lack of variety, a lack of revolving viewpoint that gives Starfire a turn as narrator, a lack of respect in the dialogue that discusses the character, and twenty or thirty other things I can't even think of right now.
I would not blame a Starfire fan for picking up this title, curling their lip, and returning it to the shelf, and that’s just based on the dialogue alone. I know I would. I also couldn’t blame anyone, especially a woman, for picking up this title, rolling their eyes and, again, returning it to the shelf after taking one look at its contents even if they’d never heard of Starfire.
Too bad that’s not what happened:
Red Hood and the Outlaws is coming in at #35, having picked up another 3 grand in readers since issue #1. These numbers are not negligible – The title’s beating out Birds of Prey, every Ultimate Marvel line (if only barely squeaking ahead of Ultimate Spider Man), and running neck and neck with long-time established character Green Arrow. Catwoman? Did even better, beating out Supergirl and breathing hot on the heels of Amazing Spider-Man, Marvel’s flagship character. (Who has been justifiably hemorrhaging readers for a while now.) On the bright side, Wonder Woman is still queen bee at #13, Batgirl’s right behind at #14, and relative newb Batwoman is owning at #15.
So, one can’t exactly discount the fact that a lot of dudes like getting off and will pay good money to do so. That or they love Red Hood so much they’ll overlook any level of sexism to see him fighting crime, maybe. You know what, it’s probably the getting off. Maybe we could find a way for dudes to get off on women who remain actualized women the whole time said dudes are doing their off getting. That brings me to the other criticism I had for this article.
I think the author slips up with her presentations of 'good sex!' vs 'bad sex!' The Batman/Catwoman sex scene is crap to me, but I get what the creator was going for: a sex scene. A scene with sex. The author gives this one a thumbs down (so do I), but then she presents Empowered. Empowered is a parody of comic sexual tropes that she doesn't consider a parody because it is a sexual comic. Well, that’s not a disqualifier. The Simpsons and Family Guy are sitcoms that parody sitcoms. Futurama is a science fiction show that parodies science fiction. And last I checked Empowered, casts prurient male desires as the culprit of every joke (even if long suffering Emp is the butt of most jokes) and has no actual sex scenes. 
She also recommends a female POV scene between Black Cat and Spiderman that has Black Cat getting dressed and leaving Spidey in his skivvies, also largely played for laughs and Spidey-shame. So, for her a good sex scene is a self-aware parody or joke that contains no actual sex scene. Those are not alternative a bad sex scene, but a condemnation of sex scenes.
If I may beat my Old Yeller metaphor to death; I don't think the best boy-to-man coming of age story would be something called "Cummin' of Age!" where Audience N. Sert turns to the camera after he shoots Old Metaphor and says "It's sad Maw, but when your beast starts spittin' foam you gotta grab yer rifle and fire one out to get it to lay down. And that's what makes you a man."
Funny, but meta-humor, lampshade hanging, self-parody, and genre savvy self-aware dialogue are largely used to deconstruct genres, not construct them. Maybe I’m being petty; I also think Empowered is an enjoyable, sex-focal comic. I contend, however, that it's not sex done right, or sex done wrong; it's sex done funny or funny done sexy. When I’m having a nerd-rant about how much comics at large are sucking (and I have ‘em, boy howdy) I wouldn’t pause to say that my one exception is The Tick. I think the author should just be honest and say that she's tired of male-targeted displays of overt sexuality, prefers most of her sexual scenes with diffusive humor, and that she doesn't think sex scenes belong in comics because that’s what I’m getting. There’s nothing wrong with any of that, but some people like sex scenes, would rather the scene not be played for laughs, and would prefer to have their libidos pandered too instead of teased. There’s nothing wrong with them either. There’s no better mentality there, but there is a lot of sexism in comics (its not even entirely directed at women!) and it’s creating too many female characters with too little substance way too often. Watching it derail a character I actually liked just plain hurts.